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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 18:25:00 -
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The odds of a mass participation event under current code is zero.
Anyone want to try to get a couple of large corps fighting each other in a system now?
And clearly a large corp with a grudge can bring down Eve anytime they want, just get their members to fly to a system.
Dev's you might want to consider the implications of that.
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 18:39:00 -
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Oh dear, surely I have not let the cat out of the bag here.
Sharpen up that code chaps.
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 18:45:00 -
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So you mean to say, if 2 large corps organised a war in a sector and it brought eve to its knees the rest of the player base would be furious the game was being played as it was advertised on the box????
I know where my anger would be directed.
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 18:58:00 -
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I am no alt and I am making a serious point.
I've no desire to bring Eve to its knees, CCP run events can do that.
The problem is, it is now clear, not only is it possible, but it is relatively easy and also well within the rules of the game.
Are CCP going to ban people for organising a corp war?
This is a problem and it is not going to go away by hoping nobody has noticed, they have.
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 19:30:00 -
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var'ulfur until someone states there is a problem and how it might appear (and that is quite simply what I did) sticking your head in the sand is not going to work.
If large corp wars can go in a system without ludicrous lag times and Eve collapsing that will be fantastic.
If a lot of people can gather in one sector to see an event organised by CCP that would be great too.
I think your claims about how stable the system is can be taken with a pinch of salt along with your idea we are posting with alts and people are going to be banned for organising large player participation events.
Who they gonna ban for Ammar collapsing, all the players in the system when it collapsed or just the organisors of the event 
maximum occupancy in a solar system is a nice quick fix, to a big problem.
Perhaps it would not impact on gameplay too much.
So lets just say, fix it so Eve does not crash.
But how about fix it so the lag is not so bad it is possible to play the game.
Now I want it so I do not get lag-killed at the JIP point.
Shall we set the limit at say, 1 ship per system 
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 19:46:00 -
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Nobody was/is getting angry, we were having an interesting discussion until you came along with the LMAO cannot wait to see you organise such an event and all get banned. I love how you post with alts nonsense.
And even that total waste of keyboard tapping has been treated with rather more respect than it deserved.
So you like playing duff games, fine.
I like to try to improve a game for everyone and if enough people notice this game can fall on its face just about anytime they want it too perhaps CCP will start getting to work on improving the thing, one way or another.
Perhaps you were not on UO on the days of the rebellions when the player base was low enough you could organise the storming of Lord Brits castle, without those pioneers these games woul still be in the dark ages.
Already we have the idea of system limits, there will be others.
So how about you go play on your laggy games while some people here try to thrash out a better solution.
Just coz you can find something worse does not make this great.
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Posted - 2003.11.22 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Old Winter on 22/11/2003 20:07:24
Why-o why didn't all you clever types with so much experience of these games tell CCP before they organised the event.
It would have saved so much grief.
I cannot imagine CCP are very pleased to hear yo lot suggest the game just cannot be created as they expected it too and that a decent player gathering will bring this place to its knees everytime.
10,000 players on a shard anyone taking bets?
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 20:25:00 -
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I expect to see maximum limits set on the number of players within a system very soon, to stop player revolts, at least I darn well hope so.
Anyone that thought I was suggesting player led revolts does not know me, I'm suggesting CCP buck their ideas up before it gets to that.
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 20:34:00 -
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Aye, it would either be blocked gates or Eve brought down by too many loading into one system.
Neither is brilliant, but one is better than the other.
With the code in its present state they have got a big problem on their hands and we have all seen it in action.
It really is only a matter of time before player led revolts do occur and all within the current game rules.
Now they have to find a way of heading this off and when they do that the game will be better for us all.
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.22 21:34:00 -
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It is true, nobody said it would be easy to solve a problem which is quite obviously at the root of this issue.
It is however pretty simple to bring the game to its knees.
Right now not only can access be denied to a particular system by bringing enough people into a system it can also ensure players get stuck there for hours and eve gets a reboot, 3 hours later some people are still staring at black screens.
So lets see if that problem can be fixed pronto while work on a better fix is introduced.
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